Slow HTTP direct download...

Discussion in 'Digitel DSL' started by jerwin, Jun 2, 2010.


  1. nabuto

    nabuto Member




    > i tend to disagree.
    > yung drugs, totally bawal yun kaya walang exception.
    > yung download sites, hindi bawal yun pero pwedeng gamitin sa bawal na paraan kaya siguro merong restrictions dun. besides, even the download sites are constantly deleting illegal contents kasi in the country where they operating, hosting illegal contents is not allowed.
    > sa normal sites, mabilis ang downloads so hindi poor and infrastructure ng digitel. in fact, mas mababa ang latency ng digitel kaysa sa globe. it means, mas marunong sila sa mga bagay-bagay.
    > at ang digitel ay hindi dumadaan sa proxy server. hindi tulad ng globe dyan. hehe.
    > in the past, meron akong nadiskubre sa digitel. nagulat ako nung nalaman ko yun. pero i agree sa ginagawa nila.
    > buti nga yung isp natin dito ay free. free in the sense na hindi sila kagaya ng isp sa strict muslim countries na lalabas sa screen mo: "blocked". pupunta ka sa ibang sites at tatambad sa screen mo: "blocked". hindi magbubukas ito at hindi magbubukas yan, which i find very good. i have no problems with sites that are needed to be blocked because they do not conform to the laws of the land.
     
  2. nabuto

    nabuto Member




    > hehe. baka nadiskonek ka lang kaya tumigil yung dinadownload mo.
    > sa bawat bagay, meron yang allowed action at unallowed actions. hindi ibig sabihin na hindi sila nagbablock ng sites ay pwede ng gawin ang mga bagay-bagay.
    > cyber sex is an example. bawal yun. syempre, kung gagawin mo e di syempre pwede mong magawa pero nangreraid sila ng mga may business na ganun kasi nga bawal yun. yan ang isang example ng unallowed actions.
    > kunwari, yung baril. meron kang lisensya para magdala ng baril. but it does not give you the right to shoot everyone on the streets. kasi kapag ginawa yun, bawal na yun.
    > and so on and so forth.
     
  3. josekym

    josekym Member




    Hahah! Excuse me, but proxy or no proxy, Globe's network infrastructure and connection performance is still far better than Digitel's, IMO.

    Even Digitel's carrier-class connections leave much to be desired...

    @Nabuto,

    You still failed to answer motion55's question: who are they (Digitel or other ISPs) to judge what is illegal or not?

    General sweeping statement ang pag-limit nila sa download sites while claiming na "pwede kasi itong magamit sa illegal". How would they know this in the first place? How do they determine which are legally and illegaly using the said services on their network? Short answer: they don't.

    Take a look at their AUP. Is the above clearly indicated there? Probably not.

    If you ask me: "powered by palusot.com" lang iyan! Poor infra is still poor infra... Kahit na most AS-connected pa sila... Xp

    Mas maganda sigurong maglagay na rin sila ng sign na "Please bear with us, we are currently experiencing slowdown in our system." tulad ng ginawa ng PLDT dito. Heheheh.
     
  4. nabuto

    nabuto Member




    @josekym

    i do not need to answer the question of motion55 because the answer is a simple no. communications are private and providers respect that.

    as for digitel versus globe, i like digitel better than globe. why? sa digitel, hindi kami nawawalan ng net. sa globe, nawawalan yan ng net which of course naeexperience mo rin. hindi lang net, pati dial tone. latency speaking, mas malayong mas mababa ang sa digitel kaysa sa globe. downloading ng patches sa online games, malayong mas mabilis ang digitel kaysa sa globe. now, could your globe phone call other carriers? you know the answer for that very well. so, is their infrastructure better than digitel? for digitel, i could use it to call other carriers.

    nasubukan mo na ba ang problems sa globe dahil sa proxy nila? why is globe using proxy? and why is digitel not using proxy? that, you need to answer. i had experienced the horrors of globe's proxy. nasubukan ko ang pamatay nilang proxy na madalas ay hindi nagloload ang pages.

    as for their technical support, digitel is better than globe too. dito sa atin, mas malayong mas marunong ang mga tao ng digitel kaysa yung mga pinapada ng globe.

    as for their aup, hindi direct na stated dun ang mga bagay-bagay dahil general yung statements dun na hindi pwede. kasama na dyan ang downloading of illegal contents. at of course hindi sinasabi dun na pababagalin nila ang speed mo sa download sites.

    at hindi na kailangan na sabihin ng digitel na pls bear with our slowdown (kasi matagal na silang slow. haha). pero i am happy na graduate na kami sa kapangitan ng digitel. nasa maganda na kaming koneksyon, pero marami akong hirap bago kami nilipat.

    and oh, before i forget, yung bill namin ng digitel ay hindi nahuhuli. laging meron. so maganda ang processes nila sa bagay-bagay. pati sa pagkonek ay mabilis din. yung network lang nila ang mabagal. hehe. how about globe? mas mabagal ng kaunti ang pagpapakabit sa globe at ang bill ay hindi dumarating sa tamang oras! madalas, talagang walang dumarating na bill! pati mga kakilala kong globe subscribers, wala raw yung mga bill nila. walang dumarating na bill.
     
  5. josekym

    josekym Member




    Whaaaat??? Nawala ako doon ah?

    No point in arguing that since Digitel client ka, at Globe client ako. You can always say may bias tayo for each. For me, mas pleasant pa nga ang experience ko kay Globe in terms of overall service, even if compared to PLDT, where I was subscribed to for close to 6 years.

    Network infrastructure po ang topic ko, hindi LEX, so no need to drag that in as well. Remember, ganiyan din problem ni Digitel noong baguhan pa sila sa landline biz in the region (or maybe you did not experience Digitel's landline service way back 2003), so we cannot say the same for Globe at this point, granted we have not given enough time for them to develop their LEX interconnections yet.

    Nasubukan ko na rin ang problems dahil sa proxy ng Globe. In my case, ang dali lang na so-solusyonan sa end ko.

    Digitel is not using proxy because they have their own reasons (which we obviously do not know). Maybe it's a "technical" limitation? Heheheh. I don't know. You can go ahead and them nalang as their client.
     
  6. nabuto

    nabuto Member




    nawala ka?
    hmmm, that is bad.

    sabi nya: who are they (Digitel or other ISPs) to judge what is illegal or not?
    > ang sagot ko ay communication is private so they cannot judge kung ano ang ginagawa mo. they have the aup and you must follow that. they do not snoop on the things that you are doing because that is illegal.

    ngek, technical limitations? of course not. they do not have it because it is not needed.

    i know the differences of globe from digitel kasi ginagamit namin sila ng sabay.

    but anyway, if i were to choose between the two providers after considering all factors from technical to customer service, i would choose digitel. (in reference dito sa present na dalawang connections namin.)
     
  7. sa-joedy

    sa-joedy Member




    mura ang digitel.. mapapa-mura ka sa paputol-putol na connection nito. ^^
    hays, masakit tlaga icipin mga bad expirience namin sa isp na to b4, nakakasira ng costumer. sabi noon ng taga digitel, maganda connection nito, base sa location ng shop ko perfect!. session road, baguio city. peru, BAKIT namin pinadisconnect??? kase pa-putol-putol. errrr..
     
  8. josekym

    josekym Member




    To each his own nalang, mga sir!

    OT na tayong tatlo eh... heeheehee ;)
     
  9. nabuto

    nabuto Member




    yes, nasubukan ko na rin yang putul-putol na koneksyon nila. haha. fresh pa rin sa mind ko. pero hindi sila mura. kasi P9,900 yung 4.5 mbps nila! mas mura ang globe.
     
  10. sa-joedy

    sa-joedy Member




    master kym,
    hanggang 8pm pa ako dito sa shop, dami tao eh.. may nag hahamon sakin dota amp. hindi naman ako marunong hehehe..
     
  11. josekym

    josekym Member




    ^^OT: Heheheh. Ganun ba sir? Pareho lang tayo. Mga worse than "weak" sa DotA... Ako naman, troubleshoot ng mga PC ng client sa kasalukuyan, kaya malamang hanggang mamayang gabi din ako dito... Heehee. Good luck!
     
                                 

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