Lawyers target thousands of 'illegal' file-sharers

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  1. alimokoi7

    alimokoi7 Member




    Lawyers target thousands of 'illegal' file-sharers

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    Around 15,000 suspected pirates may soon get legal letters accusing them of illegally sharing movies and games.
    ACS:Law plan to send notes to the accused in the New Year offering a chance to settle out of court for "several hundreds of pounds".
    A lawyer who has defended people who have received similar letters described it as a "scattergun approach" which would catch "innocent people".
    ACS:Law said it was "unaware" of anyone that had been wrongly sent a letter.
    Andrew Crossley of the firm told BBC News it was acting to "eradicate" sharing of its client's products.
    "We give them opportunity to enter into compromise right at the start to avoid having to deal with it [in court]," said Mr Crossley.
    If it went to court and the lawyers were successful, he said, damages "would run into several thousands of pounds".

    read more http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8381097.stm
     
  2. eolliver1

    eolliver1 Member




    too bad about the pirates in the UK then. LOL. i see no threat to Pinoys at home in the Philippines as of this time though, because the bill regarding sharing/downloading hasn't been passed yet.
     
  3. moliro

    moliro Member





    after they finish their downloads cguro, baka ipass na nila... :twisted:
     
  4. 1337.807

    1337.807 Member




    tsk... too bad for open trackers. You know its really hard to find an invite now. But I still believe in TPB!
     



  5. buti na lang sa pinas di apply yan, government ang protector namin, puro kasi kurap.
     
  6. alimokoi7

    alimokoi7 Member




    sakto.....
     
  7. 1337.807

    1337.807 Member




    we don't have a very high speed internet here kaya ganun. Other countries like the UK offer 10mbps ADSL connection for regular home users so ganun. Then wala pang pinoy tracker sa pinas eh. Also talamak ang pirated VCD/DVD sa lansangan dito nga muslim vendor may mayors permit benta mga pirated na DVD. Kalokohan nga yong mga raid raid na ginawa ng VRB noon sus.
     
  8. speedshred26

    speedshred26 Member




    ok lang yan pre.. hindi maipapasa yang bill na yan kasi mas marami pa silang dapat pagtuunan ng pansin.. :wink:

    sana hindi na maipasa yang bill na yan para happy happy.. lols
     



  9. we don't have a very high speed internet here kaya ganun. Other countries like the UK offer 10mbps ADSL connection for regular home users so ganun. Then wala pang pinoy tracker sa pinas eh. Also talamak ang pirated VCD/DVD sa lansangan dito nga muslim vendor may mayors permit benta mga pirated na DVD. Kalokohan nga yong mga raid raid na ginawa ng VRB noon sus.[/quote:19xvk4r5]

    kahit hindi mabilis ang internet natin dito sa pinas, we can still download, illegal parin, wala kasing political will, once nasa pwesto na, bahala na kayo.
     
  10. Latency

    Latency Member




    the Problem of ISP here in the Philippines is not site FILTERING but SPEED Throttling specially on torrents ...
     



  11. paano na kaya kapag naipasa na yaan, naks, maraming mapipilayan.
     
  12. motion55

    motion55 Member




    Karamihan ng ISP naka proxy ang subscriber. Mahihirapan sila mag trace at parepareho ang IP address.

    Anyway, sa Pilipinas, maraming mas importante problema kaysa software piracy. Lutasin nila mga ito bago ubusin ang limited resources ng gubyerno para dyan.
     
  13. livewire

    livewire Member




    id worry about this issue about 10 to 15 years from now. judging by our government, mentality and ISP system. not too much to worry about.
     
  14. josekym

    josekym Member




    What exactly do you mean by "maraming mapipilayan"?
     
  15. motion55

    motion55 Member




    Kailangan yumaman muna tayo bago tayo maghigpit. However, as the title says, mga abugado ang nagtatarget ng file sharing. With all due respect to attorneys, I'd be worried sooner than 10 or 15 years knowing we have lots of lawyers and that's a source of income for them.
     
  16. lordmight

    lordmight Guest




    hehe last year pa po ito ah :)
     
  17. livewire

    livewire Member




    @motion, it is not easy as you think. here are the facts

    lets say lawyers earn from it so what do they do.

    file a bill and find some congressman to sponsor the bill who will lobby for it for its approval in congress.

    fine lusot eto if walang reklamo, but then again if lusot eto the next issue is infrastructure and implementation of the law.

    that means implementing it would force ISP to upgrade their infrastructures to newer top of the line servers and routers,switches etc. etc. so that they would have the capability of tracing each of their clients IP address to their exact location.

    remember in file sharing like in US and EU their ISP have the capability to track you down up to the last detail of what street, city, province or block you live in. which in current time none existent in the PI

    PLDT and other giant ISP and Telco Company would not agree to such since that would be additional investitures for them thus minimizing their profit.

    now heres another thing, CHR would come in and argue about privacy issue and stuff. why such authority would peek into ones net activities etc. etc. etc. and sooner or alter other NGO will join the bandwagon just to get a taste of the media and the issue.


    with all those mentioned above. why would i worry? did u get my point or do i have to elaborate the whole thing again.
     
  18. pcruztemp

    pcruztemp Member




    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/11/16/un ... coica.html
     
  19. motion55

    motion55 Member




    I know about the difficulty of tracing. I already cited one example. Read back. But that is not my point. There are all sorts of regulations that they can pass that can make life harder and yet not accomplish the goal of stopping anything. For example, there is a proposal in a thread here somewhere that will require businesses to buy and install software that will filter out child pornography. They can mandate something similar in the guise of stopping piracy but will just make a few bucks for some people. It's like the Y2K scam all over again. That is my fear. It's not a technical problem but a problem with added regulations yet accomplishing nothing. I hope you get my point or do I have to give some more examples?
     
  20. josekym

    josekym Member




    ^^I agree with above.

    If they are forced to, ISPs here can already trace a user based on IP, timestamp, MAC address, caller ID, login name, SSID, etc. thus tracing is not an issue. It is the motivation behind it which will probably cause implementation problems as motion55 has mentioned.

    May mga lalabas na naman guidelines or regulations na "pahirap" sa ordinary Juan, pero in the end eh wala naman talaga maitutulong sa solusyon ng problema sa P2P/Filesharing/Piracy/etc.

    Kaya nga, ISPs are doing the next best thing (for them at least, imo): filtering, blocking & throttling of connections from their core network already.
     
                                 

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