Cisco CCNA, Linux Bootcamp

Discussion in 'IT Worx & Services' started by mnetsolutions, Sep 28, 2010.


  1. primus

    primus Member




    registered ba kayo sa SEC, DTI and tesda? do you have the proper permit to operate as a training center? kung registered kayo then hindi kayo "moonlighting" training center, yung mga "moonlight" kasi ay yung walang proper permit to operate as a training center. maski na marami kayong equipment, that does not mean a thing. I searched DTI BNRS and no Mnet company turned up, yun ba ang registered name nyo? kasi maski ang sari-sari store ay may registration sa dti, how much more sa isang training center? dapat mas lalo kayong registered di ba?
     
  2. Laserion

    Laserion Member




    ilan months ba or years kung mag-aaral ka ng CISCO from start? kailangan ba na may background knowledge ka sa basic networking as requirements? meron kasi ako dati nakita lang sa UCLA nung nasa US pa ako for vacation lang... year 1999 or 2000 nakita ko sa brochure or yung course outline nila mga 8or12 modules yata... for 10or12 thousands US dollars ang fee... yikes! very extensive ba yung training sa CISCO? mga 2or4 year course din ba yan? TIA!
     
  3. Unwired

    Unwired Member




    dito sa atin mas mura ang training, pero limited lg ang equipment for sure at UCLA lahat lg CISCO equipment andun kaya mahal. Dapat my networking background ka with courses at Computer Eng'g, ECE, CS and other IT courses with networking in its curriculum.
     
  4. primus

    primus Member




    kung may basic knowledge ka na sa networking field, usually yung principle pa ng ibang networking ang aaralin. pero generally kung proper cisco study, at susundin mo ang study guide ng cisco, may time frame talaga per module and lab practice, it can be very extensive, ccna certification can be as long as 6~8 months, pero kung sa mga "fast pace" training center, usually couple of months lang, yung iba nga self-study lang tapos kukuha lang ng exam eh. maraming ccna certified na *totally* ay hindi pa nakakahawak ng real hardware, pero pasado sa exam dahil sa mga *simulator*

    maraming cisco certified who fail do their job too and that is because their lack of proper study or exposure - those people are the one that gives cisco certification a bad name. a good example is the entry level ccna, many ccna certified na failure pagdating sa real world application and practice - pero since na naipasa nila ang exam dahil sa "fast pace" training kaya sila certified. kaya sa mga panahon na ito medyo hindi na rin masyadong tinitingala ang ccna certification dahil sa "flaw" nito. for sure hindi na hihimayin sa mga "fast pace" training center ang encoding and decoding ng data or even the framing. pero since na ang impression ng employer ay maganda pag certified ka eh hire ka agad.
     



  5. Mga master ano po ba magandang start na pag aralan para matuto sa networking? yung mga usuall na trabaho ng isang IT.. Home network lang po kasi alam ko saka may school/training center na ma recommend kayo? salamat mga master
     
  6. Unwired

    Unwired Member




    @silver13, please do not hijack this thread. Make a new thread for your query, para di bastos sa thread starter natin, baka sabihin nya maraming OT sa thread na to.

    Try also ask the TS about there package.

    You have a certain college degree?
     



  7. basta ako di ako naniniwala sa mga trainings na yan. Kahit ilang trainings pa kunin ko at teachings, at mali naman ang ituturo sakin, then mamali na din ako, mas maigi nang ako ang magresolve ng issues regarding networking. And besides certs? extra lang naman yan. IMO, may cert ka nga if you don't know the nature of networking, then you are just a pauper.
     
  8. primus

    primus Member




    training makes you more understand about certain things, minsan talaga hindi mawawala sa nag-tuturo na may mali, pero it does not mean na mali lahat ng itinuturo.

    minsan iba lang ang way sa pag-tuturo pero pareho ng result. may short way at long way. kung hindi ka naniniwala sa training, mas lalo kang walang matutunan kasi hindi mo alam ang foundation ng gusto mong malaman.
     
  9. genexide

    genexide Member




    +1 on primus

    Training - The term training refers to the acquisition of knowledge, skills, and competencies as a result of the teaching of vocational or practical skills and knowledge that relate to specific useful competencies.

    which then translates to !training == !knowledge
     
  10. kwiki

    kwiki Member




    basta alam ko ''if you train hard the fight is easy - Pacquiao''. Hehe

    Seriously, there is no shortcut to greatness. You have to went through everything to undersdand the details and connect each piece of puzzle in any field.
     
  11. cORnviTz

    cORnviTz Member




    para po di ka na rin naniniwala sa pag aaral...

    un kasi ang basic training for you para makapagtrabaho ka... tama po?
     
  12. genexide

    genexide Member




    and if you self study, it is also considered training.
     
  13. Laserion

    Laserion Member




    Thanks for the response!
     
  14. palevelmode

    palevelmode Member




    I remember our discussion on one subject I take in college (Principles of teaching). Our class had an argument in one of the teaching methodology like " Do you believe that all learning comes from self activity?"

    My opinions is specially in IT self-paced trainings are one of the best method for someone to grow experience in IT. But also need to pay for some trainings that other people offer not because we can't learn by ourselves but we NEED them especially their equipments hehehe...

    The point is kalokohan ang sabihin na matututunan mo lahat sa loob ng 1 week training. Mostly matutunan nga natin lahat... pero lahat ng basics hehehe
     
  15. genexide

    genexide Member




    bottom line is, i do believe this a great tool to refresh you about networking concepts and to coach you to different approaches to networking problem.

    i suggest that only people with background and sufficient knowledge of the ccna/ccnp course take this kinds of review programs.
     



  16. Hi guys! thanks for all the responses. Nagmukhang debate na yung advertisement ko ah..hehehe :)

    Anyways, the dti bnrs system i believe is undergoing a database update, so yung mga business names dun is not yet updated, so hindi lumalabas yung business name namin, just to answer the *moonlighting* issue before. paki-try hanapin na lang ulit...


    Although I advertise a training center. Maganda rin talaga ang self-study kapag sa I.T. It's the cheapest way to learn, at your own time, at your own pace. ( i think i've heard that line before..hehe) Some people don't believe in trainings because they can learn for themselves, which is good. Pero kung hindi mo pa masyadong alam yung subject matter, but want to learn for example networking, sometimes you need a trainor to jump start your brain. And then you can handle the rest. Ito opinyon ko na ha, hindi ko na ina-advertise yung training center ko. since nagmukha ng debate dito, which is good by the way, as long as it's a healthy debate.


    One more thing for people who want to pursue a career in IT. Don't be complacent with what you know NOW. The problem with technology, is it's always changing, always upgrading. So kung stucked ka sa knowledge na alam mo ngayon, at matigas ang ulo mo, ayaw mong mag-upgrade, I guess you'll forever be a technician and not be an admin.. Kung programmer ka naman, baka hanggang ngayon visual basic pa rin alam mo kasi feeling mo okay na yan, ayaw mong tanggapin na maraming umuusbong na languages diyan. Ang mga taong tamad mag-aral sa field ng IT, nagiging stagnant ang utak. It's funny because some of our trainees minsan medyo matanda na, and mind you, boss na ng department nila, but nagu-undergo ng training, ang dahilan nila napag-iiwanan na sila ng mga bata.Bakit sila, gusto pa nilang mag-upgrade? kung sa totoo lang hindi na nila yun kailangan?

    Don't be stucked sa OS na alam mo ngayon, learn at least 2 ( the other one SHOULD be LINUX). Parang sa language yan, dapat you know at least 2, your native language, and then ENGLISH.
     
  17. palevelmode

    palevelmode Member




    Well if I join you trainings... one reason I need those darn routers and switches hehehe...
     
  18. primus

    primus Member




    hehehe just use GNS3 - it is a real cisco ios except the hardware! make you wide scale interconnection and start pinging away! hehehe
     
  19. palevelmode

    palevelmode Member




    I already using it a year ago sir... Still I have no confidence, I just to try it in real appliance :lol:

    medyo naintindihan ko na nga kaibahan ng IP route at router rip dun :D

    Medyo malakas kasi sa mem yung ibang image eh.

    Pahabol pala... Baka meron kayo jan mga sample topologies na pwede pag sanayan... wag naman yung masyadong komplikado
     
  20. primus

    primus Member




    why with no confidence? the operation are just the same - you don't need to have the hardware to "feel" it. ano ba naman ang makikita mo sa hardware? eh isang kahon na metal na maraming port sa harap at likod? pag isinaksak mo na sa power and turn the switch on, yun na yon of course may additional na ingay ng fan at ang mga kumukutitap na LEDs. after all that.. sa software pa rin ang bagsak mo. another tip.. tignan mo na lang sa internet ang picture ng particular router na ginagamit mo sa gns3, para lang maging familiar ka sa hitsura.

    search ka ng mga case studies sa internet cisco and try to implement it. http://www.blindhog.net/ and http://www.gns3-labs.com is a good place to start.

    sa http://www.gns3-labs.com mas maraming case studies.

    re-calculate mo ang "idle pc" para maging efficient ang cpu and memory handling.

    another tip, use the QEMU (incase na hindi mo ginagamit) just to simulate a PC that is connected to your router. para feel mo how the data passes through using a workstation.
     
                                 

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