Bayantel... FUTURE??

Discussion in 'BayanDSL / SkyDSL' started by duhwho, Feb 1, 2011.


  1. duhwho

    duhwho staff Staff Member




    I'm not sure whats going on with the company but it seems most of its IP Transit goes to GLOBE Telecom?

    Either the company cannot anymore handle the IP Link for monetary reason and they outsource Globe to handle the IP Transit

    or .. this is worse... GLOBE is planning to grab or buy Bayantel???


    hmmm.. this is no good if the latter would be the case... i don't like few competitors.. I prefer many competitors...

    :D

    although they already completed 100% inter connection in terms of voice.. hence caller from other part of the region can call other province as local calls..those belongs to other each network...

    Bayantel and Globe.. hehehehe

    pero not sure why the internet? hhhmmmm
     
  2. kailrusha

    kailrusha Member




    Correct me , Bayan was sold to Lopez Last Year Diba?

    sa Area amin, Globe Lang at Bayantel. pag ibenta. Solo na ng Globe yon Region 8. sa Landline at Wired Internet
     
  3. genexide

    genexide Member




    AFAIK, Lopez owned bayan from the start. correct me if im wrong.
     
  4. major_labo

    major_labo Member




    OT:
    d ba ang Bayantel ngpaparent dn nang transmssion backbone, I know Sun Cellular before using there services for the Manila-Cebu backbone.
     
  5. oisilener1983

    oisilener1983 Member




    I think sa backbone eto ang nangyari. Mukhang hindi nga maganda ang future ng Bayantel dahil malaki ang investment ng mga Lopez sa Skybroadband para sa 112mbps at sa Digital Tv (by 2015 ata)

    1. PLdt ang 1st

    2. Sumunod ang bayantel, globe, etc (mostly owned by bayantel)

    Bayan Telecommunications has 83% capacity interest in the NDTN project (1999). The network includes capacities in the National Digital Transmission Network (NDTN), a joint project of
    six Philippine telecommunications carriers. It has an initial transmission capacity of 2.5 gigabytes per second (Gbps) and is composed of microwave, submarine and land cable segments.
    After Bayan infused additional investments in NDTN, its capacity has increased to 12.5 Gbps.

    3. Gumawa ng sariling backbone ang Globe (FOBN2)

    The cable system has an initial design capacity of 400 Gigabits per second (Gbps) and can be upgraded to handle future traffic growth.
    FOBN 2 was put into full operation in November 2009 and was completed at a project cost of around $70 million.


    Napansin ko rin noon sa traceroute (yahoo.com) na dumaan sa muna sa Globe before sa US
     
  6. josekym

    josekym Member




    Baka business decision lang iyon... Mas mura ang IP Transit via Globe network?
     
  7. pmcastillo

    pmcastillo Member




    guys san dito? sinubukan ko yung tracert

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    hehe, di ko talaga alam paano eto gamitin hehe
     
  8. josekym

    josekym Member

  9. pmcastillo

    pmcastillo Member




    Oh my, globe nga O_O

     
  10. duhwho

    duhwho staff Staff Member




    well hopefull like josekym said.. business decision lang... no pending turnover

    @kailrush

    globe and bayantel are now full interconnected inyour region as they say.. so parang local calls lang daw mangyayari... well hopefully business sense lang no buying of one entity hehehe

    ====

    Yup bayantel is owned by Lopez from the start via RCPI.. but then it try to sold this to PLDT but due to questionable price and books na fail... so sana Globe will not enter the picture hehehe

    ===

    yup may backbone sila.. so i guess focus sila dun... then sa IP transit outside hindi hehehe or its one by one step to aquire
     
  11. JamesCooper

    JamesCooper Member




    oo nga naman, kung saan makakamura dun ka... si lopez kasi kuripot.. hehe
     
  12. duhwho

    duhwho staff Staff Member




    nga pala may 499 at 512kbps si bayantel

    naku that is a competition to the 512kbps at 795 pesso ng mga kalaban hehehe
     
  13. kailrusha

    kailrusha Member




    ilan kaya CIR niyan, baka 128k or 64k. mas mura at mababang account mas maraming naka share.
     
  14. genexide

    genexide Member




    ang problema, wala na ata CIR yan. ha ha
     
  15. duhwho

    duhwho staff Staff Member




    hehehe wala ng CIR yan hehehe
     
  16. kailrusha

    kailrusha Member




    Talaga walang CIR yan, panloloko yan pre. Violation yan sa Consumer Rights at NTC Circular.
     
  17. duhwho

    duhwho staff Staff Member




    CIR di naman needed sa residential..

    pero in fairness back then nung skydsl 192.. ok naman speed...

    ngayon bayandsl 1Mbps.. ok pa naman

    kasi bayantel maintain i think before is 1:16 ratio... or 1:24... hindi gaya ng pldt na medyo mataas ang ratio i think 1:50

    hehehe... so i guess ok na yung 499 at 512kbps.. kaysa naman 795 na 512kbps
     
  18. kailrusha

    kailrusha Member




    @Duhwho. Correct kung mali ako.

    1:24 na ratio lan ba Allocated sa Group nayan. 512kbps/24? ba

    Assuming:

    luge ka ata kung makukuha mong bandwidth is 8Kb/s= 64kbps.

    Sa Facebook palang Page size is 499kb to 800kb. it will take approx 62sec to Full load under 64kbps on 499kb data sa pinakamababa CIR nila. assuming walang cache or auto delete cache upon exit. kasi sa Firefox save full page nasa 1.5mb. sa IE8 MHT file 499kb.

    ok lang sana kung 199 per month. lol.

    Sa Tingin ng bayantel pang masa ang 499 pesos na 512K. Kaso kung mabagal at mataas pa Latency de parin. masisiraan lang reputation ng Bayantel.

    Sa tingin ko parang kang Consumer ng Tubig nag babayad ng 499. Umiikot ang Contador ng Tubig pero lumalabas ay Hangin
     
  19. madzieph71

    madzieph71 Member




    one thing more... yung mga bagong plans na lower sa 899 eh wala daw SOD
     
  20. duhwho

    duhwho staff Staff Member




    @kailrusha

    the CIR is not base on the 512.. the contention ration is base on the backhaul connection...hehehe

    hindi po yung 512/24.. ang contention ration is how many user will be using one shared backhaul bandwidth

    and we are not talking simple E1 connection most backhaul is range from 2Mbps to 10Mbps or more... hehehehe

    and sometimes QoS ratio is done on Provider Edge going to the Internet.. hindi naman sa Access Tail..

    so I still believed ok pa rin 512kbps.. well much better 499 than 795 from Globe and Smart.. na 512 di ba... hehehehe
     
                                 

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